{"id":144,"date":"2008-02-01T10:03:00","date_gmt":"2008-02-01T18:03:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/eschatologist.net\/blog\/?p=144"},"modified":"2009-02-03T20:37:14","modified_gmt":"2009-02-04T04:37:14","slug":"arc-in-a-nutshell-its-no-dylan-and-thats-too-bad","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/eschatologist.net\/blog\/?p=144","title":{"rendered":"Arc in a nutshell: It&#8217;s no Dylan (and that&#8217;s too bad)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>What&#8217;s the point of [Arc][1]?  Infix-syntax [Dylan][2] is a much, much better language, especially once you add in the changes and features from the [Dylan Design Notes][3] and the infix version (but keep the prefix syntax).  Really, Dylan is pretty much the Ultimate Lisp in a lot of ways.<\/p>\n<p>Arc is essentially `(decr Scheme)` with a couple of interesting additions to try and make up for the downsides.  Downsides like a lack of international character support (what decade is it again?!) and an unhygienic macro system.<\/p>\n<p>[Dylan \u00e2\u20ac\u201d as designed in the **early 1990s**][4] \u00e2\u20ac\u201d really is `(incr Scheme)`.  It&#8217;s essentially Scheme re-hosted atop an enhanced CLOS-like object system.  With the prefix syntax, it&#8217;s even very Scheme-like in actual use.<\/p>\n<p>So, yeah.  If you&#8217;re interested in Arc, check out Dylan.  It&#8217;s a better language, and there have been implementations available for 15+ years.<\/p>\n<p>PS &#8211; The original Dylan had a [`<unicode-string>`][5] class.  In the early 1990s.<\/p>\n<p>  [1]: http:\/\/www.arclanguage.org\/<br \/>\n  [2]: http:\/\/www.opendylan.org\/<br \/>\n  [3]: http:\/\/amigos.rdsathene.org\/other\/prefix-dylan\/design-notes\/home.html<br \/>\n  [4]: http:\/\/amigos.rdsathene.org\/other\/prefix-dylan\/book.annotated\/preface.html<br \/>\n  [5]: http:\/\/amigos.rdsathene.org\/other\/prefix-dylan\/book.annotated\/ch12.html#unicode-string-class0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What&#8217;s the point of [Arc][1]? Infix-syntax [Dylan][2] is a much, much better language, especially once you add in the changes and features from the [Dylan Design Notes][3] and the infix version (but keep the prefix syntax). Really, Dylan is pretty much the Ultimate Lisp in a lot of ways. Arc is essentially `(decr Scheme)` with&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[3],"tags":[117,115,116,40,113,114],"class_list":["post-144","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-technology","tag-arc","tag-clos","tag-dylan","tag-lisp","tag-programming-languages","tag-scheme"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p74loH-2k","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/eschatologist.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/144","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/eschatologist.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/eschatologist.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/eschatologist.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/eschatologist.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=144"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/eschatologist.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/144\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":145,"href":"https:\/\/eschatologist.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/144\/revisions\/145"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/eschatologist.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=144"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/eschatologist.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=144"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/eschatologist.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=144"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}